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#1 Courier_Mojave

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 04:52 AM

I press F6 to switch to gunner view, and then aim at an enemy and start shooting. The problem is, as I look at my tracers they are way off from where I am aiming. They're going Significantly to the side, and no - the turret isn't turning.

 

This has happened more than once. Why?


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#2 garnett101st

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 05:00 AM

happened to me as well.


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#3 Beagle_Baron

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 05:00 AM

Having the same problem in by b-25, its horribly broken.


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#4 Courier_Mojave

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 05:01 AM

No more manual aim for a while.. *sigh*


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#5 Jonotallica

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 05:07 AM

Guess that means AI gunners can take over and get the kills for you.

 

Oh wait..


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#6 Chrispins

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 05:21 AM

Yeah I had this same problem in a Beaufort.


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#7 Druidspruit

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 09:12 AM

ive got this problem aswell in every bomber ive got


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#8 gantin

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 09:13 AM

What I hate is that you have to over compensate and then when the enemy changes paths you are left in the dust swing your turret around like you are swatting at bugs or something.


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#9 AgentSteel

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 09:18 AM

"OK BOMBERS, WE FIXED YOUR DAMAGE MODEL!!  ...   BUT HAVE FUN TRYING TO USE THE TURRET!! BWAHAHAHAHA!"


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#10 xskeith

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 09:19 AM

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Might be a bug, sometimes my rear gunners only turns 90' center while the welly rear gunner can actually cover 180'


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#11 Chrispins

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 09:55 AM

Cmon Gaijin get it together! 


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#12 Daragorn

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 03:03 PM

got the same bug too on my il-2m (only plane with turret tested till now :D)


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#13 RedArrows_Red1

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 04:01 PM

Bombers are a joke. They advertise this game with heinkels. I wouldn't fly one after this patch if you paid me. Useless
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#14 aspman

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 05:19 PM

Yup ntoiced it too. Aim was miles off no matter what I did.

 

Can't remember what I was in though. Think it was a PE-3 but might have been an He 111


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#15 LtFisch

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 06:15 PM

Open season baby.  Maybe they broke the gunners on purpose to see just how powerful the changes to bomber resiliance are.  This is still a beta after all.


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#16 Jonotallica

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 10:36 PM

To be honest even with them completely broken, I'm not noticing much difference.

 

In either case.. it's rare to get hits.. NEVER critical hits.. and it seems no matter where you aim or what you do.. a fighter can just park on your 6 at .3km and just spray.. and there is nothing you can do to stop it.


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 11:17 PM

I searched the forum for just this bug, was about to make a new thread about it. I've noticed it in every one of my bombers, mostly my Wellington. It's a shame because I got my hopes up when I saw gunners had been fixed only to get in game and look like a total spanner as I shot into thin air.

Us bomber pilots need some love and affection. :(


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#18 Inzidious

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 12:03 AM

Had a BF109 on my 6 in my Heinkel. Had to manually compensate for some crazy trajectory on my bullets (30% or so to the left owhere i was aiming), but i hit him 6 times. Got accredited for all hits with increased xp/lions but no crits. Now, this is the 7.92mm only yet he kept on flying like nothing had happened. On the deathcam i noticed some tiny holes in his wings, but that was all. I feel i am not credited for actually holding off for almost a minute with a 109 on my tail. This kinda stuff gets boring and old very fast, so i am putting my bombers on hold for now.


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#19 matthaeus02

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 12:04 AM

it is "interesting".

my blenheim cuppola shots horribly wrong, bullets fly all over the place. impossible to hit a thing.

but G4M is all right. I  have just killed 2 fighters in 5 seconds using rear 20mm, it was epic. 


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#20 The7Samurai

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 01:25 AM

With the useless AI-Gunners and the poor accuracy in gunners view they can fix the DM for bombers again and again. It will change nothing for the bomber pilots atm. How to defend your bomber while you can only spray your bullets in all directions (except that of the attacking fighter) is a miracle for me. I scored over 70 Kills with my beaufort in the last 4 weeks (the two cal. 0.50s in the front turret are great) but since 1.31 my gunner dont even hit the enemy when im at his 6 flying straight forward. And aiming the rear gunner yourself doesnt improve anything, because the bullets/ tracers doesnt match the crosshair.

As a fighter you can catch up at the 6 of a bomber and carefully aim at his engines or wingroot without being in danger that your engine or pilot gets knocked out.


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