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Mines/Deth Charges dropped by planes in Warthunder   85 members have voted

  1. 1. Would you like to see (naval) mines dropped by planes is Warthunder

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  2. 2. Would you like to see depth charges in Warthunder dropped by planes (when AI submarines get added)

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Hello,

My suggestion was to add aerial dropped mines to Warthunder.

Examples IRL

Here are some examples of them being used IRL

 

The first recorded aerial minelaylng in combat occurred on November 20. 1939, when nine

Heinkel 59 floatplanes flew to the Thames Estuary. Although five turned back due to navigation
difficulties, four aircraft laid seven mines that night and thirty-four more in the following two days.

 

 

the U.S. Fifth Air Force flew only a single B-24 minelaying mission
from Port Moresby in June 1943.

 

three squadrons of RAAF PBY-5 Catalinas laid mines in key enemy harbors in the Southwest Pacific.

 

The PBY-5 Catalinas used by the RAAF were amphibious aircraft that provided good results.

The aircraft was well suited to minelaying, with long range and a payload of 2,000-4,000 pounds. Out of
1,130 successful sorties that laid 2,498 mines, the Australians lost nine aircraft, a 0.8 percent loss rate.
Altogether, the postwar U.S. Strategic Bombing Survey estimated these mines sank 90 ships total ling
250,000 tons, or approximately 40 percent of Japanese losses in the Netherlands East Indies.23

 

List of planes that used Mines/Depth charges

-PBY Catalina

-TBF avenger

-Tupolev SB

-He 111

-Ju 88

-Il-4

-B-24

-Fairey swordfish

-Bristol Beaufort

-Vicker Wellington

-Avro Lancaster

 

Mine/Depth Charges loadouts

Russia:

AMD-500 (Ground mine)(500 kg, charge 300 kg (TNT))

AMD-1000 )Ground Mine)(1000 kg, charge 700 kg (TNT))

MAB-1 (Naval Mine)(total weight not available, charge (TNT) was 100 kg, Deployed from 500 m)

AMG-1(Naval mine) (total weight not available, charge (TNT) was 250 kg, deployed from 200 m)

 

British

-Mark II mine fit with a hydrostatic pistol (3.9 kg, charge 1.8 kg, could be launched from 30 m)

-The Royal Navy's (charge 270 kg) mark VII depth charge

-1,850 lb mine with magnetic actuation

-420 lb depth charge

 

 

Germany

-BM 1000 I/II (1000 kg, Charge 700 kg, could be launched from 700 m)

-Luftmine A (500 kg charge not available, parachute bomb, Naval mine but could be used as a bomb this would be very explosive and not cause a crater)

-Luftmine B (1000 kg, same as Luftmine A)

 

America

Used british mines mainly

 

Japanese

-Type 93 model 1(680 kg, charge 100 kg)

-Aircraft Type 3 Mark 1 Model 1 (640 kg, charge 80 kg)

-Aircraft Type 3 Mark 2 Model 1(135 kg, charge 50 kg)

 

 

How to use it in WT

Naval use:

My idea is that you can take mines on let's say your PBY and drop them, when a ship get's nearby it will take damage/be destroyed.

A PBY could carry up to 4000 lb of bombs/depth charges so you could take 3 depth charges on a Catalina (each weighing 1,150 lb each)

those Mines can be dropped from 30 m high.

You can change the depth of a depth charge by pressing + and - (for example) there are three types of depth you can put your depth charge: High. Medium, Low

And I know submarines won't be in game, but maybe AI submarines?

Ground use:

This is quite easy, you basicly just drop a mine on the ground and when a ground vehicles get's close to it it will kill it (if it's light armoured) or damage him (Tanks, Detracking etc). However some Mines had a timer.

 

 

I hope you like my suggestions if you have any questions ask them :)

 

Btw: all mines had parachutes

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Very good idea, there are loads of different bomb loads still to go into the game i hope, from Cluster bombs to Phosphorous(Maybe not the right spelling) bombs.

adding different bomb loads will just make playing a bomber less bland i think personally .
 

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added some more data

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Aerial mines? When I read the thread title, I assumed some kinds of explosives attached to balloons floating around...

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Aerial mines? When I read the thread title, I assumed some kinds of explosives attached to balloons floating around...

Oh sorry that I mislead you....

btw I forgot to put in in there but you can also use aerial mines for ground bombing

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Aerial mines? When I read the thread title, I assumed some kinds of explosives attached to balloons floating around...

 

Not the only one aha.

 

This would be an awesome idea for added load outs on capable aircraft when player controlled naval forces are introduced. 

 

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I am looking for some american airdropped naval mines/mines does anyone have a source for it?

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i hope they'll implement all the different bomblets commonly used in ww2, il-2 very effective tank busters with those bomblet casettes installed

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Really hope the devs see this, would make the world war mode more fun. Drop some naval mines from a bomber around the point in which naval forces have to capture.

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I like that idea!

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does anyone have anything to say about what should be added to the OP, is there certain pieces of info you want to know?

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does anyone have anything to say about what should be added to the OP, is there certain pieces of info you want to know?

you missed a couple of german planes that were used to lay sea mines...

 

heinkel he 115b-1 and blom & voss bv 138c-1...there may be 1 or 2 others but i haven't had the gumption to look them up.

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you missed a couple of german planes that were used to lay sea mines...

 

heinkel he 115b-1 and blom & voss bv 138c-1...there may be 1 or 2 others but i haven't had the gumption to look them up.

Yeh I know but I only use planes we have in game I think that in more convenient

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Btw thx for moving it to further discussion, I'll try to do some work on it tomorriw

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hehe

srry for no action on the post, I forgot that it still existed, I am going to add some more data really soon, but can you guys please give some advise on what you'd like to see added?

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would like to add that the UK's heavier bombers also carried mines and depth charge load outs, specifically the Lancaster had a load which contained 6x parachute 1,850lb mines, the Wellington could carry 2x 1,500lb mines from what one site tells me.

 

http://www.lancaster-archive.com/lanc_bomb_loads.htm For Lanc, bomb load codeword is Gardening, is listed in other articles as well.

http://www.aer.ita.br/~bmattos/mundo/ww2/wellington.htm Best I've found for the Welly, info is right at the bottom of the page, can look into other references.

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would like to add that the UK's heavier bombers also carried mines and depth charge load outs, specifically the Lancaster had a load which contained 6x parachute 1,850lb mines, the Wellington could carry 2x 1,500lb mines from what one site tells me.

 

http://www.lancaster-archive.com/lanc_bomb_loads.htm For Lanc, bomb load codeword is Gardening, is listed in other articles as well.

http://www.aer.ita.br/~bmattos/mundo/ww2/wellington.htm Best I've found for the Welly, info is right at the bottom of the page, can look into other references.

thx for the info, srry for late reaction haven't looked at this thread for a long time

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